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Saturday, 7 June 2008
Bus breakdown in Market St Sydney CBD 6 June 08
Mood:  accident prone
Topic: local news

We had three public interest legal cases to assist with yesterday 6 June 2008 in the Sydney CBD - one as tutor to our ecology action volunteer Carol and her solicitor Pam Suttor. Another as agent for one veteran agitator on public interest issues Neville Diamond in the Coca Cola/Gosford Council water bottling case in the Land & Enviroment Court and thirdly searching out the subpoena procedures for a civil liberties case in the local court.

Also firming up the detail and process for application for sole practitioner status to continue providing pro bono legal advice after 2 years part time with little AAT Legal (and sundry other legal experience). All this keeping us off our regular mico news blog work yesterday. The previous day was testing and interview for legal temping work, another next Tuesday with a big law firm who can use our 57 words per minutes in an admin role.

But even with these challenges we felt a big twinge of sympathy for this public bus driver and his  "NOT IN SERVICE". There he was with yellow flashing lights looking disconsolate, and obviously broken down stuck like the proverbial cork in the bottle corner of Market and George St at about 11.30 am. What a metaphor. It's all relative. 


Then this guy just a bit further down in George St. Ouch.



Posted by editor at 1:40 PM NZT
Wednesday, 4 June 2008
ANZ 'district officer' avoids bad Gunns pulp mill PR to manage Opes disaster
Mood:  bright
Topic: corporates

We would like to think ANZ bank declined financing Gunns Ltd disastrous pulp mill that would devastate natural forests in Tasmania. But somehow we think CEO Mike Smith pictured above in Australian Financial Review May colour magazine has responded both to the cost of global debt at the present and the PR problems around Gunns Ltd to best focus on managing litigation over the crash of Opes Prime share trading business:

 3 June 2008 It's $1bn or court, warns Opes litigator | The Australian

Opes Prime's crash, with ANZ as a priority creditor, has burnt alot of wealthy angry powerful people who are getting organised for a real fight. The "district officer" Mike Smith doesn't need Gunns as a PR millstone like this Get Up advert (as good as their word) in the Australian Financial Review yesterday June 3rd 2008:

One last comment about Mike Smith. He's experienced the sovereign risk of the Argentinian currency meltdown in 1999 onward (caused by leader Carlos Menem, with echoes of Paul Lennon?) in dramatic circumstances. It's quite a ripping yarn as per this reportage from The Standard press in Hong Kong:

Tempers flared and ordinary, yet enraged people took their household DIY hammers to the bank doors.

Buenos Aires was on the boil.

Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corp chief executive Michael Smith remembers 1999 in Argentina, not the least for a bad experience.

I survive, he says, matter-of-factly.

At the time, he was CEO of the largest foreign bank in the country.

Amid the political tension in Buenos Aires, he says he became a target.

It was about seven years ago. I got ambushed on my way home one night and my car got shot at.

Smith had his own driver but he was off for the night, which was fortunate.

[If the driver was there] they would have gone straight for his gun and killed him and I would have left in the car without anywhere to go [and] they would have got me. I used my own car as a weapon and I smashed through them, says Smith.

But he was not unscathed. One bullet pierced through the car door penetrating his thigh.

Two years later, when the masses rallied and vented their anger against the countrys political class and the banking class, he was trapped in an HSBC branch, also in Buenos Aires. A mob waited outside.

But no one was hurt. It was amazing, he says.

Posted by editor at 11:06 PM NZT
Rudd's food poisoning cause for mirth in question time
Mood:  accident prone
Topic: aust govt


Question time was a fairly relaxed affair with the government presenting some poise. In fact we rang Mr Rudd's media staff to note the penultimate posting about News Corp reliance on booze adverts. Indeed Rudd referred to the distillers special interest at one stage. But what caught our eye was this moment, a bit fudged on the webcast, where Rudd can't help chuckling (pardon the pun) at the reference to an oppositin question gibe "We know Julia [Gilliard, Deputy PM] cooked the hotdog". This was a reference to this page 3 story in the Sydney Daily Telegraph and presumably sister tabloids today:

4 June 2008 Rudd's daggy shaggy dog story

: Party pies or porky pies fpr PM Kevin Rudd 1:12pm: KEVIN Rudd's first explanation of rumours he'd had a heart attack was that he'd eaten a "dodgy dagwood dog". That didn't wash. Now it's a party pie.

The mishap has already been linked to the NSW Govt allegedly lax enforcement of the food hygiene laws:

Iemma's food law made Rudd sick
Media Release: 4 June 2008
The Iemma government's food outlet hygiene laws failed to protect Prime Minister Kevin Rudd from buying a 'dodgy Dagwood dog' or a poisonous party pie and becoming ill early last month when visiting Sydney, according to Greens NSW MP John Kaye.
Dr Kaye said "If Food Minister Ian Macdonald had given this state world-standard 'name and shame' laws, Kevin Rudd would have been able to see the results of the last inspection of the eatery clearly displayed where he purchased the offending item.
"Because the Iemma government rolled over to the restaurant industry when the Food Act was amended in April of this year, the Prime Minister would not have been aware of how often the hot doggery or pie stand had been inspected.
"Under NSW laws, it is possible that the outlet had never been visited by an inspector.
"Even if it had, the results of the inspection would not be publicly available unless there was a penalty notice issued or the outlet was prosecuted.
"Kevin Rudd, along with thousands of other prepared food consumers in NSW each year, spent a very uncomfortable 24 hours because the Iemma government is denying this state the protection of proper 'name and shame' food laws.
"The Prime Minister was forced to play Russian roulette when he purchased his hot dog or party pie.
"Like too many other consumers, he lost and paid the price," Dr Kaye said.

Posted by editor at 5:27 PM NZT
Sydney tabloid hard liquor politics to protect retail advertising?
Mood:  quizzical
Topic: big media

One gets a perspective on the Sydney Daily Telegraph's, and to a lesser extent SMH, to federal ALP (and indeed NSW Police) policies to curb social dependence on alcohol.

Here is our count of full page adverts since 21 May 2008 in the Sydney press with maybe a few misses. We counted 17 full pager adverts in the SDT and 3 admittedly broadsheet size in the SMH  [not including 2 more pages in the Telegraph today 4th June 08 before we saw our copy] 

Notice the targetting of the Young Labor, and even more notably NSW Police Commissioner Scipione who is a teetotal (like this writer for a few years now).

Notice the attacks on the police in other directions over Cronulla riot and police bungle in a drug tragedy. Mmm.

Recently we also posted this which seems timely to repeat in full:

Wednesday, 7 May 2008
News Ltd HQ in Sydney keeping afloat 10 pubs all within 500 metres?
Mood:  quizzical
Topic: big media


To get an understanding of the Sydney Daily Telegraph loyalty to the big alcohol industry one can look to their full page adverts, with a sample here:

Or one can notice articles like this:

29 March 08 Drinking under attack from the new wowsers | The Daily Telegraph

5 May 2008 Laws to ban drinking at home | The Daily Telegraph

5 May 2008 Reader's Comments: Radical laws to ban drinking at home | News.com.au

and this

Or one can read extracts of the Latham Diary about hard drinking news men with 'scores to settle' with loads of people.

Or one can simply take a little tour of the neighbourhood in which their multi-storey headquarters taking up a full city block is located. Which we did:











Which just left us to take the first picture above of a totally coincidental street frontage - a local fancy dress shop - also very close by. Quite a metaphor for the mask that News Ltd wears regarding legal drugs.


Posted by editor at 10:54 AM NZT
Updated: Wednesday, 4 June 2008 4:44 PM NZT
Tuesday, 3 June 2008
Green Folder goes missing as Coca Cola kills Peats Ridge creek?
Mood:  incredulous
Topic: legal

Margaret Pontifix is a retired local school teacher in agriculture and biology, and local authority figure and champion of Mangrove Mountain District Community Group Inc. "I'm not a greenie" she states firmly "but I am a conservationist. It's just terrible what's happened to the environment there." Here is Margaret talking to Jonathan Harley of 7.30 Report in 2005.

Margaret, who was a pioneer female teacher in her profession when she went through Newcastle University in 1959-61, told SAM 2 days back that up to the 1980ies the Peats Ridge creek(s) which emerged from the Peats Ridge Springs were clearly present and surrounded with natural vegetation but now it's a paddock while multiple bores are the source of "Peats Ridge Springs bottled water" marketed by both the former business owner and now Coca Cola since 2003.

In the 1980ies, as she told Commissioner Tim Moore in evidence in a controversial 2005 Land & Environment Court case involving Coca Cola, she used to collect under license 500 to 600 umbrella ferns (species name Collicoma) 3 times a year. In other words this was a very ecologically productive area with a permanent creek up until the early 1990ies. Now it's "a paddock" next to Euloo Rd, Peats Ridge now.

What a shame, and the price of progress some might say. Or maybe an improper price? Margaret Pontifix says all this ecological richness was documented 'in a big green ring binder' she took to the court hearing in 2005. She points out her forbears came to Mangrove Mountain in 1826 and the historical information in that folder is irreplaceable. Commissioner Tim Moore saw it's importance too and asked to borrow it to have a read before making his decision at David Kettle Consulting v Gosford City Council & Ors [2005] NSWLEC 519 (29 September 2005) . But where is this critical historical and ecological baseline evidence of the rich environment that is now the Coca Cola bottled water plant?

This big Green Folder of baseline data and photographs might also have been critical in an earlier case --Azzopardi & Ors v Gosford City Council & Anor (No.2) [2001] NSWLEC 283 (14 December 2001) which objectors lost involving claims of breach of the Rivers & Foreshores Improvement Act 1948. The RFIA has now been repealed and folded into the new Water Management Act 2000. It remains unclear to this writer how effective the new WMA is in protecting waterways.

The story gets murky. According to Margaret Pontifix the Land & Environment Court Registry returned the valuable Green Folder after the court decision in October 2005 to a representative of PJ Donnellan Solicitors who represented Gosford City Council in the case. It was 'to be returned to Margaret Pontifix'.

It was Gosford City Council lawyers who negotiated "consent conditions" agreeable to Coca Cola (in the name of their agent David Kettle) which was duly endorsed by the court. 

We understand that since as early as 1992 Coca Cola was keen to extract water at Peats Ridge Springs near Gosford NSW. This is recored in MMDCG meeting minutes quoting a representative of Coca Cola visiting the area. But it was only by 2003 that they actually bought the bottling business there on Euloo Rd owned by the Pace family who initated water bottling in the early 90-ies. It remains unclear just how close the supply relationship between Pace/Parit Pty Ltd and Coca Cola Amatil/David Kettle Consulting has been from 1994 - 2003 but according to local residents it was always known that "Coca Cola would buy Pace's water bottling plant at Peats Ridge Springs".

This suggests that the Pace owned operation was a main supplier to Coca Cola for a long time prior to the latter buying Peats Ridge Springs in 2003. A cynic might suspect that Coca Cola Amatil have never been willing to destroy the Peats Ridge environment in their own name, but happy to via a proxy from 1994 to 2003, just as they prefer to run all their litigation today in the name of their agent "David Kettle". Why the PR secrecy Coca Cola? Why not stand up in your own corporate name? Is there a guilty conscience at play here for what you know has happened to the destroyed creeks and the rich ecology there?

The purchase of the Pace operation in 2003 itself was a little controversial as here:

 [Media release ACCC 26 June 2003]

ACCC not to oppose proposed acquisition of Peats Ridge by Coca-Cola Amatil

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission will not oppose the proposed acquisition of Parit Pty Limited, trading as Peats Ridge, by Coca-Cola Amatil Limited, Acting ACCC Chairman, Mr Sitesh Bhojani, announced today.

Peats Ridge bottles and wholesales packaged water products under the brand names Peat Ridge Springs, Mount White and Blue Beau. Peats Ridge does not supply direct delivered, bulk bottled water and the overwhelming majority of Peats Ridge's sales of packaged water are to supermarkets and other food stores.

CCA bottles and wholesales packaged water nationally under the brands Mount Franklin, Kirks, Pump and Deep Spring.

"The ACCC conducted market enquiries and considered whether the proposed acquisition would lead to a substantial lessening of competition in the bottling and distribution of wholesale packaged water", Mr Bhojani said.

"The primary reason for the ACCC's conclusion that the proposed acquisition would not substantially lessen competition was the lack of significant sales by Peats Ridge to the highly concentrated route distribution channels. Route distribution includes convenience stores, milk bars, petrol stations, vending machines, and on-premise distribution such as restaurants, cafes, pubs, arenas and cinemas. "Accordingly, the ACCC decided to not intervene in the proposed acquisition.

"However, given the strength of CCA in the route distribution channels generally, the ACCC will closely examine any future proposals by CCA to acquire other beverage businesses".

Additional contacts

  • Mr Sitesh Bhojani, Acting Chairman, (02) 6243 1132

Release # MR 131/03
Issued: 26th June 2003

More here Amatil buys Peats Ridge Springs, stays silent on Neverfail, By Scott Rochfort, June 3 2003

Today we wrote to the lawyers for Gosford Council to request them to produce the missing Green Folder, the implication being that it will be raised as an issue in the new court proceedings as early as this Friday directions hearing 6th June 2008:

Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 11:16 AM
Subject: Coca Cola case - mystery of missing Green folder of baseline evidence Peats Ridge creek(s)

Dear Robert,
I will need to ask your firm, the council's solicitors to produce this mysterious green folder of historical and ecological baseline data relating to Peats Ridge creeks on the Coca Cola property (formerly Pace). If at all possible to the directions hearing on Friday. Margaret Pontifix advises me Registry at the LEC provided it to a representative of Donnelan's firm after the Tim Moore hearing and I have offered to help her search for it. Can you please advise.
Here is some more background (see below) as published to the community and general readership earlier today. Readership for this SAM news website is about 25,000 per month.
For your information Hermadth De Silva of Newcastle Dept of Water and Energy advised by phone yesterday that for the first time "a deterimination" for the percentage of water licences available for the next year would be made on 1st July 2008 in about 4 weeks time. Not sure if that means 100% or some smaller amount or whether that is surface and groundwater licence annual determination.
Further I have been consulting the DOP over whether the original 2003 DA should really have had, or indeed legally needed to have, a full formal EIS. Would be interested in council's view or advice about that either through you or Alan Ford, as legal officer. It looks like an area fertile for specific express addition to Sch 3 of the 2000 regulation for designated development though it may well be in there implicitly as well?
Further I will call you about the scope of the directions hearing this Friday. Hopefully later this afternoon.
Very lastly, I note this story in the press yesterday on the now familiar theme, again about uncertain and variable rainfall patterns. This seems very relevant to "which" average rainfall numbers are relied on for Kulnura-Mangrove Mountain Water Sharing Plan and management generally including by Gosford Council water authority/department. That is last 10 years or the quite distinct 100 year averages.
Yours truly, Tom McLoughlin agent for objector Diamond, researcher for Jane Azzopardi

Previous reportage on Coca Cola Amatil at Peats Ridge Springs here:

Sunday, 1 June 2008 Coca Cola Amatil bottled water legals: Ratepayers force reversal by Gosford Council so far
Mood:  a-ok
Topic: ecology

1 June 2008 Objecter seeks to be heard in Coca Cola bottled water case after driest May on record
Mood:  rushed
Topic: ecology

and here

Wednesday, 21 May 2008 Coca Cola in Environment Court on 6 June over Mangrove Mtn bottled water extraction
Mood:  sharp
Topic: ecology

Posted by editor at 5:34 PM NZT
Updated: Thursday, 5 June 2008 12:55 AM NZT
NSW public energy: 'Costa's demise added bonus' : Kaye MP
Mood:  quizzical
Topic: nsw govt

Is Michael Costa the dead man walking, a metaphor beloved of big politics referring to the great Sean Penn movie?

The willing headline on yesterday's News Corp tabloid raises a question about their corporate displeasure:

We include the SMH front page because it reveals some things too: News Corp tabloids to a newspaper all editorialised in favour of the invasion in March  2003, and on the day they could have reported exit from Iraq they went the bash on NSW ALP Treasurer instead. That's a pretty 'defense/offense Big Media attitude' given the exit from Iraq is in fact the real news priority not least the connection to increased oil prices from disruption in Iraq, as reported here on SAM via UK's The Independent (and notice Piers Akerman there).

Tuesday, 27 May 2008
Iraq war has caused the petrol price rise in the West: UN oil expert
Mood:  not sure
Topic: aust govt

Specifically  Oil: A global crisis 25 May 2008

We contacted John Kaye MP (Greens) earlier today in light of his press release below on the upcoming NSW budget. The on the record conversation went like this:

SAM: In light of the front pager of the Telegraph yesterday [above] about Michael Costa being "a debt man walking", what do you say about the future of Costa and Premier Iemma if, and it's a big if, the public energy privatisation agenda falls over? And we should mention the feature profiling Carmel Tebbutt MP in the Herald recently [as potential leadership material, by State roundsman Clennell]

John Kaye MP: "We've said all along that that it would be an added bonus to end the career of Michael Costa. NSW can't afford a climate change sceptic, an attitude to the environment like robber barons of the 1890ies.

SAM: You are diplomatically avoiding reference to the Premier?

John Kaye MP: We don't hide the view Morris Iemma has made appalling mistakes showing he is not equal to complex and challenging times - desalination which has already gone ahead, Tillegra Dam near Dungog, and electricity privatisation.



Here is Kaye MP's media release today:

Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 7:28 AM
Subject: [Greens-Media] Costa's budget puts paid to privatisation assumptions

Costa's budget puts paid to privatisation assumptions
Media Release: 3 June 2008
NSW Treasurer Michael Costa's budget to be delivered this afternoon proves that the electricity industry sell-off is unnecessary and bad for the economy, according to Greens NSW MP John Kaye.
Commenting on the pre-release announcement of a $58 billion spend on infrastructure, Dr Kaye said: "The Iemma government's budget is based on the sensible idea that borrowing for infrastructure is a healthy investment in the state's future.
"It is time for the same logic to be applied to the electricity industry
"Treasurer Costa has belatedly joined the big borrowers brigade, recognising that the state needs to invest in transport, health and education to secure the economic future of NSW.
"Exactly the same argument can be applied to the state's energy system.
"Borrowing for investment in new clean energy supply capacity would not only help the state cope with increasing pressure on greenhouse gas emissions.
"It would also earn a healthy return, which would pay off the debt.
"There would be no effect on the state's credit rating.
"If Treasurer Costa could see beyond his ideological commitment to privatisation, he would understand that maintaining public ownership of the electricity industry would help ease the debt burden.
"The generators and retailers currently put  $1.1 billion to the state's budget each year.
"That's a very healthy return on assets that are probably worth less than $7 billion on the open market," Dr Kaye said.

Posted by editor at 12:38 PM NZT
Updated: Wednesday, 4 June 2008 11:06 PM NZT
Fuelwatch is a new Get Up - run from within the ALP proper?
Mood:  d'oh
Topic: aust govt

Image:Handtiegelpresse von 1811.jpg

Comment (links to follow, maybe)

We have been stewing over this insight for about 3 days now - what is the real real politik of Fuelwatch? Small change in price of petrol effect. Small but significant polling pain for the federal ALP Rudd Govt as per News Corp press today. Largely irrelevant as to big ticket item of carbon pricing. Yet the Coalition are fighting tooth and nail against the plan - even raising shaky constitutional issues via MP Chris Pyne.

And accused by Ross Gittins of lacking strategic nouse, suggesting shallowness. But now I think I understand. Kev you are a clever chap.

Get Up was seed funding cyber activism from Evan Thorley MP (ALP) and others on a diverse but unity ticket of Anybody But John Howard. Get Up have kicked on  post electin to become a huge progressive 250K subscriber/membership not so ALP aligned as such anymore, building another feisty raison detre 6 months into the new Govt. Acknowledging that earlier ALP influence is an important aspect of growing beyond that stereotype with open ness and honesty (Solomon on MTP 10 about a month ago).

Thorley himself came from the US IT sector avoiding the tech wreck of 2000-01: Cross fertilising Australian politics with the pioneering Demorat aligned George Soros funded MoveOn.org aimed at removal of George W Bush 4 years in 2004, as a balancer to Fox News right wing ranting in the Big Media.

So what is Fuelwatch if not an internet based mass engagement, empowerment movement on a significant price sensitive topic of interest to most voters given our car dependence? The Coalition have every reason to fear another highly successful Get Up only this time out of the national ALP Govt proper.

Brendan Nelson as Opposition Leader was on 7.30 last night with ridicule over price controls of supermarkets in GroceryWatch. But it's not a joke Brendan. Just as Get Up is all too real. Just as Barak Obama raising huge funds on the net is no joke. Just as Big Media are embracing/meeting/loathing the challenge of the internet - as significant as invention of the printing press in the late 15C according to experts like Jay Rosen and Margaret Simons.

Just as you read it here first.

Posted by editor at 10:53 AM NZT
Updated: Tuesday, 3 June 2008 4:35 PM NZT
Big alarm over top cop charged over huge corruption scheme
Mood:  incredulous
Topic: legal


The wow factor is high in the Charles Miranda and other coverage over charging of assistant director of the 'secretive' NSW Crime Commission over drug importation global scheme.

It follows another wow story on 4 Corners last night about international organised crime and corporate thuggery.



According to the radio interview with the Daily Telegraph's Miranda 'sitting on this confidential information for 12 months' a shipping container was delivered with the illegal precursor chemicals for the drug ice. We will read up about this detail with interest.

A contact of a contact of a contact suggests that the source of illegal handguns arrive in Australia exactly the same way. We have no idea if it's true but the echo is there.

The echoes with the rat movie in The Departed with haunting Rolling Stones anthem is there too.


We also heard Maroota 45 km north west of Sydney mentioned (indicative pictures only here taken January 2008, dog stuck taken around 1997). Alot of sandmining out there we know well. One aspect of sand mine slurry pits is things like people or anything else can disappear pretty well forever in those pits. Scary.



Posted by editor at 9:55 AM NZT
Updated: Tuesday, 3 June 2008 12:19 PM NZT
Marrickville dawn view of the CBD from Schwebel st
Mood:  lyrical
Topic: local news

Not a UFO, rather a slow exposure, with flash on the digital turned off, balanced on a wire fence for some but not total precision of focus (while holding breath).

Looks like News Corp Sydney press broadsheet and tabloid liked the evocative morning light above, or were already on a parallel track with their prominent visual next day 4th June 2008. Our's from Marrickville, theirs from North Sydney with professional skill and equipment:



Posted by editor at 9:37 AM NZT
Updated: Thursday, 5 June 2008 12:40 AM NZT
Monthly pageviews for SAM micro news site May 2008 - 25,046
Mood:  a-ok
Topic: independent media

The upward trend in monthly pageviews continues. We are a day early actually mainly because yesterday was a bit of a standout with over 1000 reads in a day. Yeah we feel quite good about that.

Here now is the real 4th June 2008 screenprint which crosses the 25K mark. Cool.


Previous monthly reader pageview figures for 2007, 2008 verified by screen shot (web host provider monthly pageview account details) posted on or about 4th day of the month found in this thread:

  • April 08 - 19,250
  • March 08 - 20,803 
  • February 08 - 13,109
  • January 08 -  19, 898
  • December - 11,627
  • November - 10,220
  • October - 9, 100 
  • Sept -  8,100 (roughly, no screenshot)
  • August - 8,845
  • July - 7475
  • June - 9675
  • May  - 9, 059
  • April  - 12,087
  • March  - 6,684
  • February - 5,372
  • January 07 -  2800 (3rd Jan - 3rd Feb 07)

We received this amusing email yesterday late, starting with the response first in typical string format:

Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 11:15 PM
Subject: free copyright here Roje Re: City News

Hi Roje,
usually I would be happy to only I'm very busy this week with a public interest environmental law case involving Coca Cola Amatil. The material there at the SAM website is copyright free as per my free use statement here:
I get my kicks if my stories are lifted.
So you or any helpers can use any of it even in AMG publications! I'm all for free press man, really. It would be nice to have some acknowledgement but otherwise not necessary.
On the other hand if you want to flick me a fee to package two stories up say $25 each I could reorganise my schedule, though a bit painful.
Yours truly, Tom McLoughlin
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 9:39 PM
Subject: City News

Hi Tom,

Roje from City News here. Apologies for not following up our brief phone conversation the other week, re the Law Building development at Sydney Uni.

I was wondering whether you'd be interested in writing a short comment/opinion piece for our next edition of City News? I'd be interested in something on the law building and the blocked views from Victoria Park, or even the issue of B-double trucks you mentioned in city streets. Two interesting issues for our readers.

Because of the public holiday on Monday, I'm working on a very tight deadline, so was looking at perhaps getting something written up by this Thursday afternoon? Probably about 400-450 words if thats ok.

Thanks Tom. Hope to hear from you soon.


Roje Adaimy
Editor, The City News
Alternative Media Group
W: www.alternativemediagroup.com

Posted by editor at 9:16 AM NZT
Updated: Wednesday, 4 June 2008 5:09 PM NZT

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